tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post116128816717793263..comments2023-05-06T08:59:13.282-07:00Comments on Hockey Numbers: Shots StatJavaGeekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02529258432033746879noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-28833906783009861152008-08-29T07:31:00.000-07:002008-08-29T07:31:00.000-07:00Is data still populating this way? Or is SportsTic...Is data still populating this way? Or is SportsTicker still a functioning group? A few of teh links here are now dead and I was wondering if you had any follow-up info 2 years later.Matt Biegackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12999723700473737200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-1161382030365357932006-10-20T15:07:00.000-07:002006-10-20T15:07:00.000-07:00I'll have to draw the data down and run it up agai...I'll have to draw the data down and run it up against what I've got for PBP. I was looking at that game in particular by hand, and wasn't finding anything that matched up.<BR/><BR/>That said, it's better to work with imperfect data and understand that, than to throw our hands up and pretend there's nothing to learn...Dirk Hoaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347911551821747694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-1161378702559970432006-10-20T14:11:00.000-07:002006-10-20T14:11:00.000-07:00You cant trust this data because it's LIVE. The N...You cant trust this data because it's LIVE. The NHL fixes up their scoresheets, but this data comes from the reflexes of those guys at ice level and they'll make mistakes. I also suspect that the data is incomplete, CBS might miss something from SportsTicker due to problems with their code, or who knows what (based on initial inspection). However, if I could even get 50% of this data matched JavaGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02529258432033746879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-1161367736316521342006-10-20T11:08:00.000-07:002006-10-20T11:08:00.000-07:00This is some great stuff, but how do we reconcile ...This is some great stuff, but how do we reconcile the problems with the Shot Chart data vis-a-vis the NHL play-by-play and game summaries? The information doesn't seem to match up. Time of play is completely off, totals by player are wrong, etc.<BR/><BR/>For instance, Jason Arnott and Paul Kariya's Shots On Goal differs between the Shot Chart and the box score.<BR/><BR/>If we could trust what Dirk Hoaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347911551821747694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-1161299929451074952006-10-19T16:18:00.000-07:002006-10-19T16:18:00.000-07:00The next step is to find a way to connect the play...The next step is to find a way to connect the play-by-play shots and these shots (it's going to be a challenge). Then I can create a better shot quality model. (including PP/SH/EV rebounds etc.)<BR/><BR/>It's really quite a amazing how different this is from the official sheets shots though.<BR/><BR/>Even if I cannot do that I can still figure out what goalies in net, whether it's a PP etc. JavaGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02529258432033746879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31600912.post-1161293627725365312006-10-19T14:33:00.000-07:002006-10-19T14:33:00.000-07:00As always, JG, top notch. Again, though, there's ...As always, JG, top notch. Again, though, there's some travesty here. <BR/><BR/>I assume there's no correlation with this data and stuff like power plays, but take what you can get, I guess.<BR/><BR/>It's a real shame that the base data and you are so separated. I wish I was somebody important so I could rectify that.Earl Sleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843720035500316419noreply@blogger.com